Behind the scenes of Undercover Billionaire

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Welcome to Mr. Biz radio Biz Talk for biz owners during the next half hour, Mr. Biz, Ken Wentworth, a leading business advisor, and two time bestselling author we'll cover topics. That'll help business owners run their companies more profitably and more efficiently. If you're ready to stop faking the funk and take your business onward and upward, this show is for you. And now here's Mr. Biz Ken Wentworth. All right. Welcome to another episode of Mr. Biz radio with me, Mr. Biz, Ken Wentworth, and

Up with new things for the show. I know you guys that our loyal wasp listeners and Watchers on YouTube. No, that we had Mr. Grant Cardone one of the stars of undercover billionaire on the show a couple of weeks ago, and wouldn't, you know, it posting things on social media and whatnot. I got connected with someone else who was on the show that those of you are watching will be very familiar with. And so I said, you know, one of my prophecy that I always mentioned is if you don't ask the answer's always no. So I said, Hey, would you like to come on the show? I'd love to get sort of the behind the scenes and some of the different things, a lot of us know, Grant Cardone, follow him know Grant Cardone. But how many of us know the Louis Curtis, which is his name in the show is sort of alter ego or the when he goes by on the show.

And so with that, I wanted to bring on the show, Matt Smith, who who's the primary person that grant Cardone partners or Louis Curtis partners with during the show. So, Matt, let me give you a little bit of a brief intro here. So Matt is a Business owner, extraordinary. So he is the owner co-founder of Wake Up Pueblo. And we'll talk a little bit about that in a little bit, the snooze sleep company, pueblos best total home services, Mr. Penguin, pueblos, best carpet cleaning. And of course he's owned a couple of snap Fitnesses as well, which if you're watching the show, you notice that as well. So with all that said, welcome to the show, Matt. Well, thank you so much. I'm honored to be here. It's a, it's awesome. I see all the amazing things you're doing out there and just appreciate you having me on the show.

Yeah. So look, I should mention a couple of things for those of you watching on YouTube. Hint, hint, if you didn't know, you can watch a show on YouTube as well. I made a special little background for the show for Matt. So I want to mention real quick too. Matt just had a book come out and a release called Cereal Dadpreneur. And we're going to talk about that a little bit more too, but a Cereal Dadpreneur. So I want to talk a little bit about that as well, but I want to make sure we mentioned that book because it's something that, you know, the vast majority of our listeners would be able to benefit from male and female. So I want to mention to mention that, but we're gonna talk about some of the secrets behind the scenes of undercover billionaire. And we're going to talk about some Louis Curtis some stuff and some impressions that Matt had before we get into all that though, Matt, again, I just outlined a lot of different things you're doing on in the business. Tell us a little bit about your entrepreneurial journey. Yeah, no, I appreciate that introduction. Some of those businesses that I've actually

Sold a few of those recently. But I, you know, I'm an entrepreneur here in town you know, I I've been in the fitness industry for a long time. I've been in the mattress industry for almost 20 years. Wake Up Pueblo with something that's new to us, a big marketing company. We can talk about it a little bit as well, but I do real estate, a lot of commercial real estate and residential real estate developments here locally too. So, you know, I, I'm just a Pueblo, passionate person. I'm a family man. I got a beautiful wife, Jenny and three children, two boys and a little girl. And that's, that's my, why that's, that's the reason I do what I do, but I, I enjoy the thrill of being an entrepreneur. I enjoy the the thrill of being a dad even more. And I just, I'm enjoying this journey. We call life. So, you know, I I'm just blessed to be on the ride. And I appreciate you having me on the show today.

Yeah, no, absolutely. And I'll tell you guys, listeners, you guys hear me talk all the time about, you know, I'm a huge fan of Jesse Itzler and I'll tell you my impression of Matt, not only from the show, but from following Matt on social media is he's like a, he's like a junior Jesse Itzler. I don't know Matt, if you follow him at all, but he shares a lot. He's he's you should fall on, you would love him. Uhe is,ua big, big time entrepreneur as a out, and he's a billionaire. His wife is Sara Blakely who started Spanx. They share tons of stuff. Family-Related things on social media. And that's what reminded me,usince the last several weeks that I've been following you on social media and seeing on Instagram, on your stories and things like that, a lot of the family related things you share in the fact that you're a successful business person, entrepreneur, literally it was, I was telling my wife last night that,uI said, yeah, I'm gonna interview Matt Smith,utomorrow on the show.

And she's I told her, I said, yeah, I got her fall on Jesse Itzler and Sara Blakely on social media. And I told her, I said, you got to follow him. He's he's a lot like Jesse, some of the things he shared. So I definitely appreciate that. And anyone who listens to the show knows I'm a massive Jesse Itzler fan. So that as a huge, huge compliment, a really big fan has been fan of his. So let's talk a little bit, we've got about four minutes left in the segment here. So let's, let's talk a little bit about the book. How did the book come to fruition?

You know, the book has been something I've been trying to write for a while and I'm just not a writer. So it was so painful to get this done. And when COVID hit, it was one of those, those things that I'm like, okay, here we go. Let's, let's get this thing out there. And then obviously strategically, I wanted to wait until the show came out a little bit before I released it and I've got it all done. But the, the, the whole premise of the book is just making sure you have that balance. There's so many people that are really good at being a father that forget about their dreams. And so many people that are really good about being an entrepreneur or a business leader that they leave their family behind. So it's really about having that, that balance in between and just things that I, you know, I think I've learned a lot in my career in my life and just lessons and stuff that I've learned is really what the book's premise is all about. Like just trying to figure out where that, that it's different for everybody, but it's very, very important to you know, make sure that you continue to say family first through the whole journey, but you know, don't forget about your dreams and everything else either. So,

Cause I, I agree with you a hundred percent, a lot of people are really focused on one side or the other, and I feel the same way if you're, you're too focused on one side of the other, you're you're missing out, you get the gosh, this going to date me for sure. But that, that song cat's in the cradle, you know, if you focus too much on the business and you get to where, you know, you, you know, your kids are 25, 30 years old and all of a sudden you miss their whole childhood. And you know, I say it all the time to my wife, there are no do overs. You know, you can't go back and go, Oh, you know what? I missed all those sports events and the, the choirs and all that. So let's just go back. I now I'm successful and I have the money and I have the time, let me go back and see all that stuff. It's too late. You know, you already spent that.

Yeah. And my dad, I mean, that's funny cause that's, that's, that's my dad's story. Now we have a great relationship, but I didn't know my dad for 18 years, he left to go make money, you know? And my mom struggled as a single mother of two boys, so we never had any financial gain or anything as a kid. So that's, it was like the perfect storm for me to say, like I saw how much love she had for her children, but financially, sometimes we couldn't even pay the electric bill. And then my dad was out there not really being a dad, but trying to figure out how to get money out there in the world, which, you know, again, we, we built a great relationship now with my, with his grandkids, but he'll admit it, you know, it was a, it was a tough time, so

Yeah, no super important. I mean, yeah. And, and I guess, I, you know, again, I don't know your dad, but I would say when you said he wasn't being a dad being a father as in with the, with you and any of your siblings or whatever, but you know, he was trying to provide for his family. So I guess I'll defend him a little bit there. Right. He's trying to do the right thing when that side just maybe missed out on the other side of the equation. So yeah, I guess you've had that sort of perfect training ground to write a book like this.

Yeah. And just to be who I am like to make sure that I will never not be at some of my kids' games or dances or whatever it is. And I want to make sure my kids can have the financial freedom to be vacation and do things that they want to be able to do and not have to worry about not being able to write that check for football or for sports or something like that. So that, you know, that really is my why on this whole thing.

Yeah. It's funny. You mentioned that I, I played basketball and everything, and I remember I was telling someone one time, a friend of mine, I was giving him some feedback like, Hey, you know, why aren't your kids game? He was at a happy hour and his kid had a game. I'm like, what are you doing? And I said, I'll tell you, I remember every game that my parents were not at when I was in high school, even in high school. And I'm way past high school. I remember the games they weren't at even all these years later. So I said, man, you can't miss out. And he literally was like, you gotta be kidding me, finished. The rest of his beer, took off, went to the game. So I was kidding. I love it. All right. So if you want to find out more about that, you can find out more about the book at cerealdadpreneur.com and cereal spelled like the breakfast food. I should mention cerealdadpreneur.com. And we're going to hit the break here. We're going to come back, give the Mr. Biz tip of the week, and then we're gonna continue talking. Matt Smith, CoStar of Undercover Billionaire

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He's a personal friend of mine and Ryan was like, Hey, if you're looking to do some business or whatever, go see that. And the Ryan texted me. He was like, Hey, so some guy's going to come there. There's some cameras. I'm not even sure what's going on, but I sent them your way. And you know, I told him, he's looking for a gym right now. So I showed up thinking maybe a camera or two, like, I've been on a few little kit, but this was, you know, now I know it's the discovery channel, but this was, there was cameras in every corner. There was people everywhere. There's drones flying around. I'm like, okay, so it's something special is going on here. But that was the first impression was, was very like, and then this guy comes to me, he's like, Hey, I'm Louis pleasure to meet you. And he was very like, okay, what what's, what's going on? I mean, what's your purpose. I definitely had a lot of questions that I, a lot of unknown there.

Yeah. But so for those of you who haven't watched yet, got the discovery discovery plus app downloads. I don't know. It's like five bucks a month or something like that. So even if you've missed the first four, I think episodes have been shown now five you can catch up, you can speed, watch them. You can binge watch them really quick. But literally that first, that was the first impression that that Louis Curtis has. And the first thing Matt did was like, yeah, I'm not comfortable with this. And so, you know, if you watched the show and I don't want to ruin it, if you haven't seen it, but you know, grant gets kind of, Louis gets kinda ticked off. He's like these cameras are ruin it. You know, I got to make a connection with this guy, Matt Smith, you know, he's my ticket and he's the guy I want to partner with, et cetera, et cetera. And these stupid cameras are messing me up. And so what may made you give him a second chance?

No. I mean, there's no doubt. The guy was super awesome. The guy had a, you know, a cool story. He was very passionate. You know, the, the little bit I talked to them that the cameras didn't show, you know, he told me his story about coming here to Pablo, wanting to give back to this community, wanting to bring his family here, to Pueblo, Colorado, and get out of the rat race of LA. So obviously they had to have a backstory, but it, I could tell within a few minutes of meeting the guy that there was some passion there. And then he wanted to make a difference in this community. And I'm anybody that knows me, knows how much I love public Colorado and how much passion I have for this community. So then it was like, well, whatever's going on right now if done, right. This could be pretty special for our community. So, you know, and again, he's just, he's a passionate human being. You, can't not love Lewis Curtis, AKA Grant Cardone when you meet the guy.

Yeah, yeah. I could get that. I totally get that. So it's interesting. So the Matt and Louis Grant started working together grant Matt is impressed enough, by the way. How crazy did you guys think he was during the, the a Snooze mattress when he's out flagging down cars with their net promotion?

Yeah. You didn't see any of it either. Like that show did not show how crazy that day was, but we were, I got my first and only really bad review that day because these, somebody was so mad that we were throwing flyers inside of their car and they were honking. And, but we were literally, at one point, my wife had jumped inside of a convertible and drove back to snooze. So lady would come over and try a mattress for the first time we stopped cars, traffic here. We were at gas stations, grabbing people, pulling them over. We were at the dollar store across the street. So we were literally, the energy was just amazing and right. It's a book of it came out that day. We saw him and recruited him to go help pass out flyers. We had our warehouse guys. So it was just a really fun day. And what you saw being crazy was 10 times more crazy than that, for sure.

Oh, I can imagine. I can imagine. But you know, I think the interesting part for me was, again, you know, even what I mentioned the outside of the show is, you know, the Grant Cardone versus Louis Curtis, you know, those of us who follow a grant and follow them on social media, you know, you get to know his persona because he shared so much. But knowing that this guy has, you know, owns his own jet and all, and he's out in the middle of the street, flagging down cars and things like that, it just goes to show you like he's going to do what it takes to be successful, whatever that is.

Yeah. And now that I follow gut and I've gotten pretty close to the grant, you know, I watched his stuff. And just like you said, the one thing I could tell any one of his audiences, that guy does not just talk the talk so many people out there, just stand on a stage and say, do this, do this. Like, no, the grant Cardone walks the walk 100% that guy does whatever it takes to win. And as this show keeps progressing, you'll see a lot more of that. I I'm I'm with you in the viewers watching this. I've never seen any of this before. So I'm always like, Oh, I didn't know that he was intimidated to come meet me. I didn't know what happened before that meeting. I was just in the meeting, you know, so I never saw what was happening in the RV park. I didn't see the house stuff, all of this stuff, I'm watching it at the same time you guys are. So it's, it's been fun for me to go, huh? He is a human. And there's a lot of other sides of that story. Before that I, I saw a confident guy walking into my office, but before that there was, you know, obviously there was some reservations before he became Simi. Yeah.

Yeah. So we've only got about two minutes. I've got to hit a break again, but I'm curious, what was your feelings? Because you didn't didn't know any of this stuff was going on. And then what happened when, when they had to shut down production for COVID and he comes to you? I mean, how did that conversation go? You had just given him a check and advanced check for 10 grand and he's like, Hey, by the way, I got to leave town. Like how how'd that work out?

Yeah, that was, I think maybe a lot of Americans, including myself and definitely Louis or grant, we thought this was kind of just going to blow over. We were like, ah, I'll see you in a couple of weeks. Like this isn't that big of a deal. I think at the beginning of this, it was like all this hype and we thought it was just a bunch of hype and then it really became a real deal. So it was our partying ways is more of a high five. I'll see you in a couple of weeks, if this all blows over, I'll see you soon. And we'll, we'll get back to where this was. And then after he was gone, it became a lot more of a big deal. Then we're like, I don't know if I'm ever going to see this guy again. Like I have no idea if I'll ever see him again. And that really went through my mind. So it was like, it is what it is. That was cool. Whatever was going on. It was cool. What had happened, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, so, so were you watching your bank account to see if he, cashed that $10,000 check?

And he was very, you know, he told me that he was like, I would not cash this check until I prove to you what I can do. So I hold onto it until I can prove you otherwise. So that meant a lot to you. That was a big trust for sure. Yeah.

No, I think that's huge. That's a big deal because especially in that situation, I'm surprised he didn't instantly run out because, you know, as you see now during the show, they're tabulating his net worth as they're going along. And so for him to cash that check pretty interesting. So so again, this week we're talking with Matt Smith who was a CoStar of Undercover Billionaire with Grant Cardone slash Louis Curtis as well as a couple of other women who will be coming up on the show here in the next few weeks. Elaine and Monique. But I want to mention again, his book that he just that's just been out here a couple of weeks called Cereal Dadpreneur, spelled like the breakfast cereal - cerealdadpreneur.com, go check it out. It should. It gives you the secret to building your multiple seven figure empire.

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Hi, welcome back to the show. And for those watching on YouTube, you probably just saw me. I just realized I'm actually on video scrambling around here. So we had a little bit of an interesting time this time I'm keeping the, the the clock for the show on my cell phone. And so I'm struggling and it keeps going black on me. So I have to keep like paying attention to it. So if I look back that it was watching a video, that's why, including you, Matt, if you're like, what the heck is this guy doing? No, the bank things keeps going black on me. I should've figured that out beforehand, but nonetheless, so again, talking with Matt Smith again, cerealdadpreneur.com to check out his book that just came out. I'm, I'm very, very certain I've read the book yet full disclosure, but I'm very certain that based on what I read about the book it would be very applicable for almost everyone who listens to the show.

So go out and check that out. cerealdadpreneur.com. So Matt, I gotta ask you, so at any point in time, were you suspicious of Grant's background? I know we've seen I think it was maybe two, two shows ago where he came to you with three ideas and one of them was a commercial real estate deal. And all of a sudden you were like, how much background do you have with this? You know? So were you at any point in time, were you suspicious? We're like, wait a minute. What the heck's going on here?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I would be lying if I wasn't suspicious. There was, there was so many different things, even with the cast and the crew, like they, they had new Facebook pages and Instagram pages and we, I became really close to the crew. And as I learned that they all had fake names. So they were all putting this stuff on too. There was so much more to it than just Louis putting this on. They all had to have a different Facebook page, Instagram page. And when you, you know, you make friends, you try to go find them. And you're like, Hey, who is this? And then they had like five followers or 12 followers. You're like, wait, what? But, you know, I will tell you that I learned early on in this show to just shut my mouth and embrace this because something special is going on. And that's kinda, I had people from this entire community everyday texting me, like, what is this chemical? And what's going on in our community. And someone's going to take advantage of you bet. Someone's going to screw you and take your money. I could just feel it. And I'm like, no, I think the opposite. I think something special is happening right now. So it was definitely you know, I just learned to embrace it and have some fun and, and not, not ask them any questions.

Well, that's interesting because I didn't even think about that. The crew is so, so true. Right? Like you said, you become friends with them and all of a sudden you, you connect with on Instagram and you're like, wait a minute for discovery. And then you connect with another person. They're like, they work for discovery. You're like, wait a minute. You know, like, yeah. I didn't even think about that part of it. Yeah. Interesting.

Yeah. When you have a team of marketers and just everybody, I mean, when you have all these different teams, different businesses, everybody's suspicion for me, like everybody have my back. So they're all trying to do their own research. Like who's this American pride that's doing this thing in American pride did an amazing job at discovery channel had their own website for this documentary for Pueblo. Like they had created this backstory before they even showed up. So they were very good at what they did. And so it was Louis Curtis, like he had his stories figured out, you know, I could see now on the show that he talked to himself like Louis, Louis, Louis, Curtis, before he came to bat and he, every time, so he wouldn't screw that up. Like he had to play the part, but they played such an amazing part. Like just, they did a very, very good job, all of them involved to make sure that this, they didn't blow the cover.

Interesting. Yeah. Like I said, I hadn't even thought about that aspect to it. So, so give us, you gotta give us, give me one sort of behind the scenes, funny Louis Curtis thing, a quirk or some little anecdote or something like that that maybe we haven't seen or probably won't see.

Oh yeah. There's so many of them and that's, I don't know that the hardest part for this is literally, I feel like I'm on camera for a hours and they're going to pick like 14 hours of that. So I don't know what they're going to play and what they're not going to play, but I mean, anywhere from an RV broke down and he, me and him had to push it on the side of the road to we, we jumped in the Riverwalk together. I mean, there's so many things that are coming up that I just, I can't like spoil, but like, you know, you should have seen him at Safeway. Like this guy was just an animal grabbing fliers and sticking in cars and jumping in people's cars. And just, I mean, he was so fun to watch and he just success breeds success. And that energy was the same thing. He just brought such an energy. So, but I also saw the goods bats that at least like, I he's, he's a human too. He got tired. You know, he, he, he got graphics too. Sometimes. Like there was just he's he's, he's just like everybody else. He's a human out there.

Yeah. It's funny. So Elena will does that a lot of times on she'll share on social media. Like, and it's funny, I think they play like a little game with each other. She'll share it on her Instagram story and she'll be like, Oh, everyone's favorite billionaire grant card out and look at him. And he's like, it's like three in the afternoon and he's laying in bed with a hoodie on and hoodies pulled down over his face, taking a nap. And she's like, Oh yeah, he's not invincible, you know?

Oh, that's great. I need to follow that.

Yeah. It's always interesting to see those kinds of things. So let's talk a little bit about what has been the impact, not only during filming, you mentioned some of that, but even post filming now that just shows Aaron what's been the impact on Pueblo.

It's been unbelievable. Like it has just been a beautiful thing. Like, you know, the buzz around this community and the hype of, you know, even how Waco came about, like, there's so much stuff that's about to come out, but just to highlight this beautiful community in so many different ways. And I think that the storyline so far has been very positive. It's, it's shown that the, how cool our community is. So very, very good. And there's the other thing about this is, I don't know if the viewers know, but that they've pulled it back from the discovery channel and it's only on the discovery app, but you know, I talked to Tim Warren last week and they're going to push it 10 times heavier back on the discovery channel in the next 30 days or so. So there's, they're just trying to build the right momentum piggyback or the right show.

Cause this is going to be one of their flagships and they have a lot riding on this show, but they, they release it during obviously election time. So they pulled back and now they're going to rerelease it also, I think Pueblo's going to get the little bit from the app, but then when the show really releases, it's going to be just a whole second buzz out here. So it's been great. I mean, the interviews like this has been going all over the world to just talk about this community businesses. You know, I had lunch at one of our local businesses yesterday and he was like, I'm up 20% during COVID like business is booming. And I attribute a lot of the stuff that you guys are doing to help this community grow and highlight it. So that's cool.

Yeah, no, that's awesome to hear. You know, and I think that's one of the side sort of tangential benefits of undercover billionaire is they're, they're picking, they're not picking the New York city's and the Houston's and Chicago's and things they're picking some of these other, you know, mid-sized towns that maybe could use a boost. And so hopefully that's helping, you know, the first season with Glenn Stearns and Erie this season with obviously Pueblo and Tacoma and Fresno. So it's, it's interesting to hear that sort of firsthand and see them and hear the benefits of that. And I'm glad to hear that, that those are, those are happening for those cities.

Yeah. And I think it's for, I think it's for generations to come. I really do. I think this is going to, it's going to help a ripple for longterm for even local talented, excuse me, people here in our community to see, wow, this is actually really cool. Like some people think that they got to leave, you know, so we've been trying a lot, you know, with wake up and with other things. So just show to highlight that stuff.

Yeah. Well, definitely great. Glad to hear all that stuff. And in glad to hear that it said that positive impact, it's just one of those things that maybe as you're watching the show, you don't realize, and I'm out also very happy to hear. So I, you know, obviously got the app. I wasn't going to miss any of the shows, but I've had some friends of mine who had never followed grant before. They knew that I followed and they know I had gone to growth con and all that good stuff. And then they saw me interviewing him and they're like, okay, fine. I'll watch it. Well, then they watch the first couple and they're like, where when's the next one coming out? I'm like, Oh, it's been out, it's on the app. And they're like, you gotta be kidding me. So I'm glad to hear, they're going to pull it back on to discovery channel. I think that'll help a lot.

Yeah. That's what they said. That's where their biggest viewers, but we're just, I mean, I think America or the world, isn't this weird TV versus app time right now. And it's all getting taught and then it's all going down. So they know that the show happens to be right in the middle of that when everybody's pushing their apps now. So they're going to build that up, but then they're going to release it on the TV. And I think that's where, that's what the big buzz will come from, for sure.

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