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Mr. Biz Radio: 5 Questions You Need to Ask to Crush Burnout

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Welcome to Mr. Biz radio, Biz. Talk for Biz owners. If you're ready to stop faking the funk and take your business onward and upward, this show is for you. And now here's Mr. Biz, Ken Wentworth.

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Alright Welcome to another episode of Mr. Biz Radio with me, Mr. Biz Ken Wentworth. I try to say it so fast, I get tongue tied there. This week guys, we're gonna talk about something that, again, you know, we try to cover these topics that are very pertinent to our audience, and we're gonna talk about burnout, and not just burnout, but how to beat burnout and how to simplify that process and being able to beat burnout with using just five questions. And so we have an expert this week to help us with that. Dr. Mylaine Riobe, I wanna make sure I get that right, is a double board certified medical doctor in O B G Y N and the exciting new field of integrative functional medicine, and has a special area of expertise in eastern medicine, which she has studied for the last five years. She uniquely combines east and west to help clients beat fatigue and burnout using five simple questions that reveal their dynamic metabolic type. We're gonna talk about that, which unlocks the secrets of why her clients are too tired to launch or uplevel their businesses. In addition to being a doctor, she's the mom of two amazing Gen Z teens. I'm sure that's challenging. <Laugh>, an entrepreneur, author, and avid fitness buff and podcaster, all the while walking her talk in living a holistic lifestyle. Dr. Riobe, welcome to Mr. Mr. Radio.

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Thank you so much Mr. Viz. It's great to be here.

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Yeah, yeah. So I know we talked, gosh, it's been months ago now when we originally talked about coming up and having you on the show, and the timing I don't think could be better, honestly. I mean, this topic is always something that's, you know, at the forefront, especially with, again, a lot of our listeners, viewers being entrepreneurs and subscribing to that hustle and grind and, you know, working work-life balance. What's that? You know? Yeah. So I think burnout is, is pretty prevalent amongst the people which I guess is a good slash bad thing that, that watch and, and listen to the show. Before we start diving into that though would give us a little bit of background on your entrepreneurial journey. Again, I know you're, you were O B G Y N and you kind of shifted gears with that. So tell us a little bit about that journey, if you would.

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Yeah, sure. Well, you know, I, I went the traditional route, but in the back of my mind, I always had a holistic philosophy that came from my grandmothers we're from the Caribbean, so there's always an herb or a tea or something, a cure for everything. And so I grew up with both sides. My, my dad was a dentist. My mom was a nurse. Both my parent, my grandparents worked in the hospital. My grandmother was a nurse, so we had the conventional medical side, and then we had this other side, this herbal side this natural holistic side too. And, you know, growing up in the United States, the, the, the natural inclination was to go the conventional route. So I went to, you know, conventional medical school. I did all the things that were necessary to get into a good medical school to get into a good residency program.

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And I, I was excited because what we understood was that we'd be able to really help a lot of people. And I picked OB G Y N because I wanted to be able to do everything and to help people to be well. That was always my focus was wellness wholeness. And I, you know, beat my head against the concrete wall for, you know, 13 years of going through this grind of learning everything I could about my specialty so that I could go out and help people and in turn help myself. Because if I can help other people, that means I can also stay healthy and I can live a vibrant and healthy life. And so you know, that, that was the selfish motivation there. And then I graduated and I went out into the real world, and I very quickly realized that that was not at all what I was gonna be able to do.

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And so I became very frustrated because what I realized after I was in the, the real world of private practice is that people don't come in with life-threatening emergencies all day like they do in residency programs. So I trained in Philadelphia you know, and we were trained to deal with emergencies, people coming in with appendicitis and pregnancy emergencies, and sometimes even heart attacks and strokes. And we became very good at reacting and responding to those things and, and pulling people back from the brink of death. What we didn't get training on was actually the more common things that people come in with in the real world. And one of the most common, if not the most common complaint my patients came in with was fatigue, exhaustion, burnout. And all of a sudden I hit this brick wall and I didn't have any means of helping those people out.

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Now we got some training, right? We were told, make sure that patient doesn't have cancer as a cause of fatigue. Make sure that patient doesn't have a thyroid condition, diabetes in the real world. It turns out that most people don't have those things when they first come in with fatigue and exhaustion. And so I was stuck. I had nowhere to go. And then the little voice in my head, you know, with my grandmother's words of wisdom started, you know, banging around in my head. Yeah. And I just decided one day, you know what? I'm gonna go study traditional Chinese medicine. And so I took this plunge and this was, gosh, my daughter was a year old, not even a year old. She's now 18. So I embarked on this journey about 18, 19 years ago. I took a course out in California.

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And what I learned from that course is I needed to learn more. Like the most important lesson Chinese medicine teaches you is how little you know about how the body actually functions. And so I dove really deep for five years and I studied and studied and studied. I was really intrigued. And I did a voluntary two year internship with my mentors down in Fort Lauderdale in Miami. I drove down every week, saw patients with them all day until I became really, really well versed in traditional Chinese medicine. And it just opened up everything for me. And I went back into my practice, and now I was able to help people treat fatigue and fast forward now to the pandemic, right? So I would have people come in, they would come in, I would evaluate them, I'd ask 'em questions, and Chinese medicine, we look at the tongue and feel the pulse.

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And then I would use this information to help them eliminate their fatigue. And it worked really well. With the pandemic. What happened is I was no longer able to have the patient physically come into the office, and I had to really think hard, like, how am I gonna help people when all I can do is see them, you know through telemedicine mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, I don't have their arm with me to check their pulse. You know, I can have them stick their tongue out. But that wouldn't give me much of the information. So I develop, I developed these five simple questions that what I realized over the years of the pandemic is I could help people figure out for themselves why they were tired, and to help them develop their own personal wellness plan based on that information. And it was basically a, a forgotten language.

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Chinese medicine helps you to rediscover the forgotten language that your body actually speaks to you all day through your fatigue symptoms, through your aches and pain. It's actually telling you not only why you're tired and why you're achy, but actually how to fix it. It's just that your body doesn't have the tools available to do that. So it's up to us to decode the language, to give it the tools, and then it finds its own path, and we get out of the, the the vicious circle, vicious cycle of fatigue and burnout. So that's how I discovered that.

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Well, interesting path for sure. And I love it because, and I know when we talk a few months back is I'm a huge proponent of treating the problem not the symptoms. And I know we talked about that a little bit a couple months ago. And, you know, ironically enough, you know, some of your, your, your trauma experience, you know, in, in an ER or wherever it may have been, you know, I, I would almost question as a, as a neophyte in the space, of course, but how many of, how many of those trauma situations were because of the, there was a, there was a problem that was never treated and it just manifested itself and got worse and worse and worse. And so it'll be interesting to talk about that. We're gonna hit a break here. And we're gonna come back. We're gonna dive a little bit more into that as well as talking about these six dynamic metabolic types, which will be super important. And then finally, we're also gonna talk about these five questions. Everyone's probably wondering now what are these five questions? So come back after the break on Mr. Biz Radio. We'll get the Mr. Biz tip of the week and we'll continue talking with Dr. Riobe.

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Alright, Welcome back to the show its time with Mr. Biz Tip of the week. And this week's tip is, ou know, a lot of times, have three pillars of financial success and I work through, so I start with every client, and those are cashflow, budgeting, and pricing. Umnd one of the things I hear a lot of time people talk about with budgeting is, a lot of people, most businesses honestly don't have a budget. And oftentimes 'cause they don't know how to create one, I don't, I don't even know where to start. I don't know what to do. Well, lemme tell you where not to start. Lemme tell you the number one biggest mistake that I see, ith budgets. And that is to straight line everything, our, your, your revenue and or your expenses. What I mean by that is keep the numbers very simple.

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Let's say your goal for the year is $1.2 million in revenue. And you say, I'm gonna put a hundred thousand dollars in each month over 12 months, that's gonna get me my 1.2 million. Almost all businesses have some sort of seasonality or cyclicality to them. And what'll up happening is if you don't bake that into your budget, you're gonna get three, four months into the year and your budget's gonna be all outta whack because you didn't put the seasonality in. And you're not gonna know if your head, if you're behind, you're doing well, you're, you, you have problems. So critically, critically important, it's almost never a way to go with the straight line. It's the simplest way for sure, but it almost makes your budget meaningless. It, it doesn't, it's not helpful at that point. So those of you out there starting a budget and wanting to create a budget definitely keep that in mind.

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Super, super important. Do not straight line your budget. Alright, that's Mr. Biz tip of the week. And let's get back into talking with Dr. Riobe. So I wanted to give you a chance, I know I'd mentioned that you probably were like waiting to talk at the end. 'cause I said, Hey, you know, I kind of figured some of this. Was that part of the, the how you switched from OB G Y N to, you know, it sounds like part of your journey was you realized that some of these trauma situations that you were, you know, you were dealing with during your residency, but you weren't helping those people not get to the trauma part. Is that part of the journey that led you, you know, to making the switch switch that you did?

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Definitely, you know finding the root cause like we were talking about months, months ago. Mm-Hmm. And I believe that what we'll find in our medical studies and scientific studies when we become more able to do better studies is that the fatigue you have to today becomes the disease you have tomorrow. So, fixing fatigue, fixing burnout, prevents diseases. It, it doesn't just give you more energy so you can tackle the day and, and, you know, get your business off the ground or up level it, you're actually unknowingly preventing those diseases that people end up in the emergency room with down the road. The reason we don't make the connection is because it takes years for that fatigue today to become diabetes tomorrow. Like that tomorrow is a decade or more down the road. So the good news is that means we have a ton of time to fix the fatigue.

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And your body is incessantly talking to you in the way that as you move through your day, every symptom, everything that you experience is actually your, your body talking to you to tell you whether or not it's either giving you a thumbs up or a thumbs down with everything you do. Once you understand that, you can figure out, okay, I'm this particular dynamic metabolic type. This is my story as to why I am tired. And so my body's telling me the story of its fatigue so that I can figure out what it needs, you know, what's in its way, what's blocking it you know, so that I can unfold what I call the four pillars of my wellness so that I can get out of this fatigue again, uplevel my business, get it off the ground, do all the things I wanna do, and unknowingly prevent a bunch of diseases down the road,

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Down the road. I love it. Well, that's a great segue. So let's, let's walk through those six dynamic metabolic types. Let's, let's start to dive into that a little bit, if we could.

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Perfect. Yeah. So the six dynamic metabolic types are broadly separated into two categories. So the first category, which is what the first four questions help us to know, is whether or not you have what I call an excessive dynamic metabolic type or a deficient dynamic metabolic type. That's the most critical piece of information. And that's, that's the biggest story that your body is gonna tell you. And when I say you have an excess dynamic metabolic type, people will ask, well, if I have extra energy, why do I feel tired? Right? And I tell people it's because not all energy is useful. So when you have extra energy, your body's not into doing anything extra, right? Your body's all about balance. So if there's too much of something or too little of something, you're gonna feel it, you are gonna feel it as fatigue. And so too much energy usually comes in the form of toxins, inflammation, or poor circulation.

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And that's why people are fatigued, right? If you have too little energy, if you have what I call a deficient dynamic metabolic type, the story your body's trying to tell you is, Hey, I don't have enough energy. Things are missing inside of me to give you the energy that you need to do the things you need to do. So we need to distinguish whether we have an excess, dynamic metabolic type or a deficient. And the five questions will help us do that. The next broad category actually has to do with temperature. And that's something we never talk about in medicine, the temperature of your body, actually, again, is your body talking to you. And so we, we, once we know if you have an excess or a deficient dynamic metabolic type, now we're going to categorize it as hot, cold, or neutral temperature.

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And that's gonna be really important. So being too hot, you literally feel warm all the time. So some women might describe that as hot flashes, night sweats, even some men may have night sweats. It's, it's duking it out with everybody to control the air conditioner, right? You're always thrown off the covers 'cause you're too high. Like you're, you literally know that you're too warm sometimes if you take your temperature, it's a little bit above normal, right? Maybe it's 99, and your doctor's always thinking you're sick when you're not, right? So that's how you know you're hot. If you're cold, you literally feel cold. You're that one that's always got the jacket on. You know, you're the one that your body temperature may even be too low. You're always wanting to throw the covers on and, and you don't want people to turn the air conditioner on 'cause you're always cold.

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And then there's the neutral where you don't feel hot or cold. And so that creates the six dynamic metabolic types. So now, you know, if you're a hot excess, a cold excess, a temperature, neutral excess, or if you're hot deficient, cold deficient or temperature neutral deficient, once you know which of those six dynamic metabolic types you are, once you know what you know bucket, you fall into, so to speak, now you know what language your body is talking to you. And again, it's all about balance. So if you're too hot, the way that you correct that is you cool yourself down. If you're too cold, the way you correct that is you warm yourself up. If you're excessive, you drain out that extra energy. If you're deficient, you build it up. And that's where we use the four pillars of wellness. So you'll know exactly what to do throughout your day to help you restore that balance so that you correct that dynamic metabolic type so that you are revived, energized, you can take your business to the next level, have that work-life balance and do the things you love to do.

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I, I love it. We, we had someone on the, actually no, I don't think we've had it on the show yet. We've, we've got, got someone who's a, he calls himself a human biologist. He's not a a a doctor or anything like that, but he worked in a mortality space for a lot of time, a long time in his career, and now he's shifted over to this. And, you know, one of the things he talks about that I think really comes across from what you're saying as well, Dr. Riobe, is he says, you know, I, I talk to patients all the time, or, or people that say, you know, well, I'm 50 and I feel kind of crappy when I wake up in the morning, but that's just part of being 50. And he's like, no, you shouldn't feel that way just because you're 50 years old, or you're 55 or you're 60, you should be feeling great.

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But he said, you know, oftentimes people just get used to, and it becomes the new norm, like, well, I wake up in the morning and it takes me a while to get outta bed and I'm creaking and cracking and I don't feel good and, and it takes, I don't get moving until nine or 10 o'clock in the morning. That's because I'm 50 or I'm 60, or I'm whatever, fill in the blank. And he said, no, not at all. Like you, there are things you can do. And that's what I'm really curious to get into these five questions because I think it'll be very powerful for people to hear these things because especially as simple as these questions like you mentioned, people can ask themselves these questions and start to determine, you know, where they're at and what their body's telling them. So I'm really looking forward to that. We're gonna hit a break here. You can find out more about Dr. Riobe at awakenedwellnessnow.com. We'll put it in show notes as well. And also follow on Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn.

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Alright, welcome back to the show. And again, we're talking about beating a burnout and we put a lot of great things in the first two segments. And I'm really looking forward to these five questions now. It's almost been like a, a movie. You see the buildup to the movie and the crescendo and so I'm looking forward to this. So, so Dr. Riobe, what are those five questions that we could be, you know, asking ourselves to, to see how our body's talking, to talking to us?

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Absolutely. So we do have a burnout assessment on our website where we have those five questions and it's a little diagram and you just follow along as you answer them. And then it tells you what your dynamic metabolic type is. We also have a P D F included in that document that gives you tips on how to get started with your personalized wellness plan. So we're not gonna have time to cover that on the show, but I just wanna let people know that they can get even more information from that. But the first question is, what is your energy level on a scale of one to 10 when you first wake up in the morning, just like we were talking about in that last segment. So you wanna rate yourself and actually come up with a number in your mind and write it down on the burnout assessment.

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So a one would be, you're so exhausted you cannot get out of bed. A 10 would be you can bounce outta bed and do whatever you wanna do right from the get go. And so you wanna know what that number is, because that number is gonna factor into the other questions. So once you know that number, you move on to question number two. Question number two is, does that number that you rated yourself when you first wake up, go up or down as you move through your day? So as you have that cup of coffee, as maybe you go and run and take your shower and get ready for the day, as you move around, do you actually feel better or worse? So those people who say, yeah, I have to move around, you know, once I get going, I feel better. So I was a five when I woke up, but after I moved around a little bit, I became a seven and an eight.

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What that tells you what your body is relaying to you is you had to force that energy to move around to feel better. So in other words, you had extra energy that you had to force to move and get out of your way to feel better. That tells you you're in excess dynamic metabolic type, right? If you say, you know what, I woke up at five and gosh, I I, it just went down from there. As I moved around and I, you know, tried to get going, I got even more tired. I would take a nap if I could. My five went down to a two. That tells you you're a deficient dynamic metabolic type, so you wanna follow the arrow up or down. And that leads you to question number three. Does that number that you woke up with go up or down with exercise?

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So again, if you woke up with a five and you say, Hey, yeah, I, when I work out, I feel so much better. In fact, if I miss a workout, I feel lousy, right? That's telling you, again, your body is telling you you need to force that extra excess energy around so that you don't feel tired, right? And that unblocks your metabolism and that helps you feel better. That's again, telling you you have an excess dynamic metabolic type. If you're the one that says, oh gosh, my five goes down to a two and if I work out, I feel like I get hit by a truck. In fact, I don't even work out 'cause I'm too tired. Right? If that's your story, that's telling you, again, you're a deficient dynamic metabolic type, and that's really important to know. And then that we move on to the next question is, do you feel better or worse when you rest?

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So if you're that person that has to work out to feel better, and as you're sitting at your desk, you're falling asleep and you have to constantly get up and move, that's again telling you that you're forcing that, you know, bad energy, that inflammation, those toxins, you're forcing them to move around so they get out of your way so you feel better. That's telling you you have an excess dynamic metabolic type. So that kind of confirms you're in excess. If you say, yeah, if I actually can take a nap, I actually feel better if I can just rest for a little bit, I feel better. My numbers go up if I rest. That's telling you you're a deficient dynamic metabolic type because you're able to restore. When you stop moving, your body can make more energy and you feel better. That's the sign of a deficient dynamic metabolic type.

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So now you should really know which of those two broad categories you've fallen into. The last question has to do with temperature. And that is, do I feel hot or cold compared to most other people? So you wanna be careful here that you're not comparing yourself to one other person, right? So most people will default and compare themselves to their spouse. Well, you don't know, you know what's going on with your spouse, but so you have to compare yourself to multiple people. So if everybody in your family thinks it's too hot when you're under the covers all the time, that's telling you you're too cold, right? Or if you feel cold all the time, and if you take your temperature first thing in the morning before you get outta bed or eat or drink anything, and it's consistently under 98.6, I have some clients with temperatures 96, 97.

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Oh wow, that's telling you for sure you have a cold dynamic metabolic type, right? So now once you've known if you're excess or deficient, now you can categorize yourself as cold, cold deficient or cold excess. And then you can categorize yourself. If you're the one that's too hot all the time, you're always thrown off the covers trying to turn the air conditioner up so it gets colder and nobody else around you is cold or hot, excuse me. Or maybe even you're a little bit thirsty. That tells you you're a hot, dynamic metabolic type. So now you'll know if you're a hot excess or a hot deficient. And then if you say, you know what? I don't feel hot or cold, I'm fine, my temperature's usually normal, not a problem. Then you're a temperature neutral, dynamic metabolic type. And now you'll know if you're temperature neutral excess, or temperature neutral deficient.

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So once you go through our burnout assessment, it'll be like crystal clear which of those boxes you fall into, and that's your story. That's your story as to why you're burnt out and tired. And now it also tells you how to fix it, right? So now that you know, hey, I'm, I'm a hot excess, dynamic metabolic type, we have tips in our burnout assessment guide of what type of food to eat to make sure that you remove those toxins and that inflammation from your system and cool yourself down. So the four pillars of wellness are eat, move rest and detox. So those are the four most important aspects of living that help us to be well and to be whole. So once you know what your dynamic metabolic type is, you know what food categories to eat and avoid. So if you're a hot excess, a raw vegan diet's a great idea for a while because the vegan diet will remove the inflammation and the toxins.

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Raw food is cooling according to traditional Chinese medicine. So if you're too hot eating foods that are gonna cool you down are gonna be helpful. But imagine now if you're a cold, excess, dynamic metabolic type and you do a raw vegan diet, right? You're cooling down your coldness, you're making it even colder, you're actually gonna make yourself worse. And so this starts to answer the question of why people try these different diet fads. And sometimes they work for some people and sometimes some people feel worse, right? So as an example intermittent fasting, right? If you are an excess dynamic metabolic type, hot or colder temperature neutral, you're gonna love intermittent fasting because it's anti-inflammatory, it removes toxins. But if you're a deficient dynamic metabolic type, hot, cold, or temperature neutral, that's gonna wreck you if you do intermittent fasting because when you fast and you don't eat, you're making yourself more deficient.

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So you're draining out energy, you don't really actually have, and you're making yourself worse. And so once you know your dynamic metabolic type, you can kind of navigate through and understand what exercises are gonna benefit you before you even do them. What you know, what type of nutrition will benefit you. So if you're cold all the time, you have to warm yourself up. So this is where cooked and spicier foods come in to raise your body temperature. If you're temperature neutral, you wanna kinda be on both sides of the fence. You wanna have some raw food that's some cooked and spicy foods so you maintain that temperature. But if you have an excess dynamic metabolic type, you might wanna do intermittent fasting or a vegan diet. But if you're a cold excess, you wanna make sure that your vegetables are cooked so that it's all about balance.

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And we teach that in our online course and we have some really great tips in our burnout assessment on our website to help people really get started to understand how to manage their four pillars of wellness and create their own personalized wellness plan. And we also recommend that people do this more than once, right? So you wanna do it about two to three times a year so that you can make corrections as you go along. It's just like you, when you wanna drive somewhere, you don't just put the wheel straight and and go in a straight line. You have to occasionally turn the steering wheel so you stay on the road. It's the same thing here. So it's kind of an evergreen tool that you can keep using so that you stay on the road to wellness, prevent diseases, and just do the things you love, uplevel your business, get it off the ground.

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I love it. I love it. Again, and we'll put this in the show notes, but the, the, her website is awakenedwellnessnow.com. That's awakenedwellnessnow.com. Go check that out, get those assessments, take a look at it. Great information, Dr. Riobe. unfortunately we're out of time as it's or time flies and you're having fun, right? But I really appreciate you coming on the show.

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Thank you. It's wonderful to be here. Thanks a lot, Ken. Yeah,

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Absolutely guys. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Have a great rest of your week. And don't forget, as always, cashflow is king

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